> > About the same. No, very different. It's like complaining that your local fire department hasn't issued any product recalls to fix your car. If you are going to complain in public about perceived problems, it gets better results (and makes more sense) to complain about the parties who are actually involved. As a community, we should complain about bugs to the vendors who supply the code containing them. That's one way we can make bugtraq especially helpful -- identify the vendors responsible, and made sure they follow up on reports in a timely manner.